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Daninsky
05-23-2009, 01:54 PM
Okay, this "There's no boob in T4" link, (see the T4 thread for that) made me think:

We do get to see shitloads full of boob shots in Hollywood movies (I'll never understand the American obsession with that I guess), but there's very few scenes of erotic nature (and I can't recall a movie showing natural nudity shot after the seventies) to be found in modern US cinema it seems.

I mean the movie Desert Hearts from the mid eighties, seems actually to have been the last hurrah for tasteful erotic.

And the aesthetic of a sex scene as seen in Terminator, for example, seems a dying art in Hollywood.

Or am I just watching the wrong movies?
Let's hear it for erotic & sensuality in movies, for something that goes beyond the mere voyeuristic show of nude skin.

EthanRunt
05-23-2009, 02:31 PM
Those classic sex scenes from films of the 70's and 80's, the cinematic kind, went into all PG-13 films for a long time, and then I think around 2002-2003 they stopped doing it, it was either just nudity shown or a suggestion, but nothing like they used to do, never thought about it before, but it's something that's been missing from an awful lot of films lately, mainly because they use teens as the leads and it's wrong to do now.

Harb40
05-23-2009, 03:34 PM
I agree that we Americans are overly cautious when it comes to nudity (whether partial or full) in movies. This is mainly due to the bible-thumping groups that can't seem to keep their nose out of other peoples business. They just don't understand that if they don't like it they don't have to watch it. They have to make a big fuss over it and force everyone else to follow their views.

Same goes for violence in films. Growing up in the 60's and 70's, I watched cartoons like Bugs Bunny & Roadrunner, Tom & Jerry, Porky Pig and others that had tons of violence in them. I never tried dropping an anvil on anyones head nor put my finger in the barrel of a rifle to keep the 'bad man' from shooting. I had common sense. Movies seem to either have no violence (meaning kid friendly) or is overly violent (meaning made for the pure sensationalism of it)

Violence and eroticism (implied or in detail) can be used if done correctly but many don't know how to or are just not willing to upset the minority. The American standards for movie ratings seems to be controlled more by fear of not getting a film shown than with what the real meaning behind a scene or sequence really means.

-Bu-
05-25-2009, 04:43 PM
for some sick reason I thought this was a thread discussing having sex in a movie theatre... ;)

I'll shut up now :D

stvndysn
05-25-2009, 05:55 PM
we all like sex in the movies, but to me a sex scene should only be in a film if it is an essential part of the plot/ storyline, most movies have lost that ideology

themonk
05-25-2009, 06:25 PM
Sex is a natural part of the human existance and I see nothing wrong the erotic display of affection between a man and his sheep....:001_huh::blink:

Daninsky
05-26-2009, 04:41 AM
Oookay, and now we better steer away from these insights in NZ movie making before I get really scared. :sweatdrop:



we all like sex in the movies, but to me a sex scene should only be in a film if it is an essential part of the plot/ storyline, most movies have lost that ideology
You're absolutely right.
And I believe that this Hollywood mentality of "OMG we have a man and a woman in the same room, quick they need to have sex!", is a direct result of Americas unhealthy stance not only toward human sexuality but to innocent nudity.
There's seems to be a Hollywood imperative at work that goes something like:
Nudity can never be innocent, from which follows that when a man and woman meet and both are remotely attractive they have to have want sex with each other.

(Because we all know that we walk around the whole day imagining the people we find attractive nude and the others, well, preferrably not at all)

That's the only logical explanation for the kind of movies we get from Hollywood currently where some go even thus far now that the Hero and the Heroine have to be blood related to make perfectly sure that the audinece starts not even to think about them possibly having, or at least wanting to have, sex with each other, I can barely wait for indie directors to pick up on that and bombard us with incest thrillers (because the so called 'erotic thriller' did so well on the box-office *rolls eyes*).