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Wolfpred
05-28-2009, 04:16 PM
yep, sad news, FOX first said it was to be a full REMAKE :001_9898:, but it's actually a "reboot/origin" story (thank god!!:21:)
the only thing i have to say is that this movie doesn't end up like FOX's other sucky prequel/origin movies
JazzX
05-28-2009, 04:56 PM
yep, sad news, FOX first said it was to be a full REMAKE :001_9898:, but it's actually a "reboot/origin" story (thank god!!:21:)
the only thing i have to say is that this movie doesn't end up like FOX's other sucky prequel/origin movies
"Alien" is an unremakable film.
A masterpiece of, simultaneously, superb tension, brilliant improvised acting and outstanding shock factor.
Anyone who attempts to remake it is doomed to failure.
It was a brilliant product of its time, and for all time ... a classic.
How are they going to remake it?
Have Ripley making out with her future captain in space school?
Have "Ash" doing an Augustus Gloop through the ship's plumbing?
Have "Mother" use Windows Vista (TM)? [actually, that's not far off]
There are some films that deserve respect.
"Alien" is one of them.
Wolfpred
05-28-2009, 05:14 PM
"Alien" is an unremakable film.
A masterpiece of, simultaneously, superb tension, brilliant improvised acting and outstanding shock factor.
Anyone who attempts to remake it is doomed to failure.
It was a brilliant product of its time, and for all time ... a classic.
How are they going to remake it?
Have Ripley making out with her future captain in space school?
Have "Ash" doing an Augustus Gloop through the ship's plumbing?
Have "Mother" use Windows Vista (TM)? [actually, that's not far off]
There are some films that deserve respect.
"Alien" is one of them.
let's just HOPE:19: they will stick with the "origin" idea and make it a stand alone film, but Ripley may be in it
Daninsky
05-28-2009, 08:04 PM
Yeah, I read about that prequel idea (and that Scott shall be back on board) but I honestly don't see what they are gonna do?
The audience is expecting to see a alien in Alien but it will become a little difficult to bring up a alien without retro actively ripping apart the orginal Alien movie.
As much as I would love to see them return to some aspects of the original, like the origin of the Spacejockey, logic tells me that it would invariably end in disappointment to do so.
And Alien without Alien?
Difficult.
They could probably bring us some tale from young Ellen (Alien) Ripley, but then it would make more sense to go for a Outland 2 which had a much similar feel.
Daninsky
05-29-2009, 09:51 AM
Okay, just read a little more about that Alien prequel, and wow does that sound rubbish. Esentially it's gonna be a remake of Alien with a different crew as it sounds.
And here I thought we had hit rock bottom with AvP 2, but no, Hollywood manages once again to dig deeper...
As usual we get a debut from a former Videoclip/Commercials director, doesn't sound promising at all.
SSProductions
05-29-2009, 09:57 AM
They are going to ruin it if they bother remaking it, no need.
IMO, if you remake a film you need to make it the exact same but with better FX/cameras: One perefect example of Quarantine. It's a remake of a Spanish horror film REC, and it is the exact same in every way except it is a bit longer and is in English instead of Spanish.
Daninsky
05-29-2009, 10:27 AM
IMO, if you remake a film you need to make it the exact same but with better FX/cameras: One perefect example of Quarantine. It's a remake of a Spanish horror film REC, and it is the exact same in every way except it is a bit longer and is in English instead of Spanish.
But then, where's the point to the remake?
If all you have to offer is telling the same story, you don't need bother doing it at all, IMO. If we take Quarantine as example, the director says in all essence that he has nothing to offer, so why doing it?
(There's a saying that you only should do remakes of bad movies, thus there's a chance to turn out at least better; which usually still isn't the case)
And that's the trouble with remakes:
Either they have nothing new to offer or they deviate from the source material so far that you wonder why didn't they just go for something original?
With Alien you have the problem that canonical there was no known previous alien contact, so they either have to retcon Alien (and we all know from several Marvel/DC retcons how well that works) or as with the prequel to TCM, surprise! (ah no, not really), you already know how it has to end.
sgporsche48
05-29-2009, 06:55 PM
Unnecessary. Sickening. Reboot. Ugh.
Killian
05-29-2009, 07:19 PM
Tinseltown seems to be going through a "what franchise can we gut for quick bucks during this time of recession/belt tightening??"; it's another example of the suits leaping on the bandwagon of the current "big thing" (which just seems to be "remake/sequel/reimagining fever" at the moment, with Star Trek, Terminator, an A-Team movie (WTF?!), and apparent Predator reboot (from Troublemaker Studios, apparently) and another Tomb Raider movie apparently in the works) and trying to milk the shit out of it before the market folds, as usual...
That said, there ARE some interesting movies in the works, (Book of Eli looks interesting, for one), but the almight dollar will always win out for the big-boys...
Wolfpred
05-29-2009, 10:58 PM
it's been CONFERMED!!!::
it's NOT:thumbup: a remake, it's a full PREQUEL
jtoc72
05-29-2009, 11:06 PM
Tinseltown seems to be going through a "what franchise can we gut for quick bucks during this time of recession/belt tightening??"; it's another example of the suits leaping on the bandwagon of the current "big thing" (which just seems to be "remake/sequel/reimagining fever" at the moment, with Star Trek, Terminator, an A-Team movie (WTF?!), and apparent Predator reboot (from Troublemaker Studios, apparently) and another Tomb Raider movie apparently in the works) and trying to milk the shit out of it before the market folds, as usual...
That said, there ARE some interesting movies in the works, (Book of Eli looks interesting, for one), but the almight dollar will always win out for the big-boys...
Actually, I am hopeful the new 'Trek will do for the franchise (including the small screen adaptations) what RDM's Battlestar Galactica reboot did for that series.
The "original" Trek (and I use that term loosely) was really bastardized during the second wave of TV shows and TNG movies, IMO.
I think a new A-Team could also be a good thing - kind of like the Miami Vice movie. With all the conflict and proliferation :osama: in the world right now, a team of American soldiers framed for a crime they didn't commit gone mercenary is certainly plausible. However, the tone is going to probably be A LOT darker.
Alien remake is a bad, bad, bad idea, however.
Wolfpred
05-30-2009, 12:10 AM
it's been CONFERMED!!!::
it's NOT:thumbup: a remake, it's a full PREQUEL
:cool
Bezzer
05-30-2009, 11:47 AM
With the Alien series (not including the AVP movies) you had 4 fantastic directors and whilst some were better than others, they were all great movies.
To me, it would make more sense to get another great director at the helm and move the story forwards...just my opinion.
EmeraldEdge
05-31-2009, 05:54 AM
Well, the Alien wasn't indiginous to LV-426, right? So really a prequel could really be just about anything they want, couldn't it? Some human encounters the Aliens somewhere out there, and can't report back before they are wiped out. The only thing a prequel can't have, really is Ripley. I mean, c'mon. You can either have one or the other, because no way had Ripley encountered the alien prior to 'Alien'. The series is called Alien, and as central as Ripley has been to the story thus far, it's called freakin' Alien. Can't not have the alien.
As long as people clammor for these remakes (What BSG did for the series... you mean take a dump on it and leave it in the dust?). Say what you want about the remakes, whether they are good or not (most aren't), they rarely take the source material seriously and generally take a loose concept and some visual cues, and leave the rest behind.
I agree that all of the Alien movies were done very well (yes, even III and Resurection) by very skilled directors. The trend to slide a commercial/video guy in there tends to mean it's a manic blibvert of a flick with next to no substance and cheap splashy visuals. We'll see which way they go. He might pull something off though, but I doubt they're gunning for a classic, more of a quicky cash grab with video game tie-ins.
Wolfpred
06-01-2009, 08:01 PM
Well, the Alien wasn't indiginous to LV-426, right? So really a prequel could really be just about anything they want, couldn't it? Some human encounters the Aliens somewhere out there, and can't report back before they are wiped out. The only thing a prequel can't have, really is Ripley. I mean, c'mon. You can either have one or the other, because no way had Ripley encountered the alien prior to 'Alien'. The series is called Alien, and as central as Ripley has been to the story thus far, it's called freakin' Alien. Can't not have the alien.
As long as people clammor for these remakes (What BSG did for the series... you mean take a dump on it and leave it in the dust?). Say what you want about the remakes, whether they are good or not (most aren't), they rarely take the source material seriously and generally take a loose concept and some visual cues, and leave the rest behind.
I agree that all of the Alien movies were done very well (yes, even III and Resurection) by very skilled directors. The trend to slide a commercial/video guy in there tends to mean it's a manic blibvert of a flick with next to no substance and cheap splashy visuals. We'll see which way they go. He might pull something off though, but I doubt they're gunning for a classic, more of a quicky cash grab with video game tie-ins.
:detective: TRUE, very true
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