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Roger
11-02-2008, 11:19 AM
As I am sure one or two of you are aware, Tuesday is the Presidential elections in the USA.

It is an Election that affects the whole world and therefore affects us all, whether we like it or not. It affects us even if we don't care.

Having the right to vote in a democracy has been bought in blood. Many people have died or been injured for us to have this right. So it is very important that if you are eligible to vote that you should. You owe it to the people who suffered on your behalf for this.

So if you are eligible, go get out there and vote!

The poll is set up to show what people would vote even if they can't vote. It is also private and closes on Tuesday. It might be interesting to see how close our prediction relates to the actual result. :)

hippieking
11-02-2008, 11:47 AM
I voted Strangely enough...I don't feel any different. :crying: Oh well

Fospherous
11-02-2008, 12:02 PM
Even though I can't vote, I vote Obama!!!

That wrinkled menace McCain hopefully shall lose but now I sound like some moron, but hey...Go Obama! :p

Roger
11-02-2008, 12:08 PM
I voted Strangely enough...I don't feel any different. :crying: Oh well
Well I am proud of you for voting! :)

BenTuttle90
11-02-2008, 12:25 PM
I'll be voting for the first time on Tuesday... :001_smile:
Recently registered to vote.

I might have to skip a few classes to get to vote..:tt2:


:hammer:

hippieking
11-02-2008, 12:35 PM
Well I am proud of you for voting! :)

I feel more specail than an over rated presidental candidate :p

Norrie
11-02-2008, 12:40 PM
Having the right to vote in a democracy has been bought in blood. Many people have died or been injured for us to have this right. So it is very important that if you are eligible to vote that you should. You owe it to the people who suffered on your behalf for this.


All very well and good Roger.
But it's such a hassle.

*looks for sarcasm smiley*

Roger
11-02-2008, 01:07 PM
All very well and good Roger.
But it's such a hassle.

*looks for sarcasm smiley*
Firstly I got the joke, made me laugh out loud, hard to imagine I know. :clown:

Seriously it seems a lot of people really do feel like that. So to any one who has never voted It is actually quite easy to vote. Polling stations are open for enough of the day for everyone to be able to vote. Once there you will be checked off on a list, then you will go to a voting point (booth) you will have a list of candidates and then you will mark your choice. You can then go home and know that you used you right.

A couple of things about not voting; don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you complain about something the Government does. If you want to complain you have the right, and that is done by voting. So no point complaining.

Even if you don't vote, it can still affect the outcome of any election.

BudBundysMullet
11-03-2008, 12:49 AM
Didn't hippieking already make a poll like this? Was it necessary to make another one?

I'll just leave with some advice my great great great great great great grand pappy used to tell me.

"Voting is like a double ended dildo, either way you're getting fucked"

Del
11-03-2008, 01:06 AM
A couple of things about not voting; don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you complain about something the Government does. If you want to complain you have the right, and that is done by voting. So no point complaining.

In Australia it is compulsory to vote. I personally think that flies in the face of the whole concept of democracy. If you believe all candidates to be incompetent and would rather not increase the percentage of support for either party then choosing not to vote should be your choice. If you would be happy with either in office that could equally mean you shouldn't vote.
I don't think that means you can't complain if they start screwing things up. Whilst as you indicate such complaints ultimately achieve nothing and real complaints are in voting, I think anyone should be taken seriously if they have an intelligent critique to offer.

But, take these examples:
"I thought either would do well, so I didn't vote, but it looks like Labour party are screwing things up a bit..." - How was this person supposed to know that Labour would err? And how would arbitrarily voting for one or the other reflect that persons true opinion?
"I thought both would screw things up and...well...I was right!" - I would have no qualms with such a statement, if its perceptive and true. The person who holds this opinion should be allowed to say that he thought both would fail.

Personally I think democracy as it isn't working properly, so I'm often torn when it comes to voting.

That said, if I could I would vote Obama. :001_tt2:

Uber
11-03-2008, 01:26 AM
actually, yu are required by law to show up and get your name ticked off. No one makes you Vote. Mrs Uber gets her name ticked off then she walks straight back out again.

Roger
11-03-2008, 10:09 AM
Didn't hippieking already make a poll like this? Was it necessary to make another one?

A very good point indeed.

I didn't actually see Hippie's thread when I posted this one. But I questioned myself "do we really need another poll on this topic?"

Well I decided the aim of my poll is different from Hippies'. Because I wanted to see the difference between those who can vote and those who can't. So that's my reasoning, and in typical Roger style, it is a bizarre reason! :cowboy:

michael_b6
11-03-2008, 06:15 PM
Don't really like Obama's policies, but I hope he wins.

sgporsche48
11-03-2008, 06:17 PM
Don't really like Obama's policies, but I hope he wins.

?

A_N_D
11-03-2008, 08:56 PM
Poll results made me a little weepy - especially those who can't vote Obama, but would if they could...

Thanks, everybody.

4 NEW years - for the world.


Jason




Didn't hippieking already make a poll like this? Was it necessary to make another one?

I'll just leave with some advice my great great great great great great grand pappy used to tell me.

"Voting is like a double ended dildo, either way you're getting fucked"


I couldn't possibly agree less.


A_N_D

Roger
11-04-2008, 04:43 AM
In Australia it is compulsory to vote. I personally think that flies in the face of the whole concept of democracy. If you believe all candidates to be incompetent and would rather not increase the percentage of support for either party then choosing not to vote should be your choice. If you would be happy with either in office that could equally mean you shouldn't vote.
I don't think that means you can't complain if they start screwing things up. Whilst as you indicate such complaints ultimately achieve nothing and real complaints are in voting, I think anyone should be taken seriously if they have an intelligent critique to offer.

But, take these examples:
"I thought either would do well, so I didn't vote, but it looks like Labour party are screwing things up a bit..." - How was this person supposed to know that Labour would err? And how would arbitrarily voting for one or the other reflect that persons true opinion?
"I thought both would screw things up and...well...I was right!" - I would have no qualms with such a statement, if its perceptive and true. The person who holds this opinion should be allowed to say that he thought both would fail.

Personally I think democracy as it isn't working properly, so I'm often torn when it comes to voting.

That said, if I could I would vote Obama. :001_tt2: Firstly very good point, now for the counter argument! ;)

The thing is if you don't like the system then you should try to change the system. I don't like the system and I am trying to change it. I know I can't do it alone or change much by myself, but I am trying to change attitudes and planning to run to become councillor. I believe that the best way to change the system is from the inside. Even extreme political parties like the BNP and The Communist party of Great Britain realise this. Also look at UKIP in Europe.

So saying you don't agree with the system and not trying to change it doesn't make it ok to complain. With democracy there is always a way to change the system and that lies in your own hands and how much effort you are willing to put into changing that system.

For myself I have considered standing as an independent, I have also considered going the full political route to try and become an MP. I know if I put enough time and effort into it I do have the chance to do it. But local councillor is something which will allow me to have an influence and the chance to change things where I live.

So I still say get out there and vote, and if you don't like it, then do something about it!

rileyman
11-04-2008, 12:53 PM
But would you vote for Lando Calrissian or Emperor Palpatine (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/a863be2b6f/vote-for-lando-calrissian-w-billy-dee-williams-from-fod-team)?! :laugh:

Roger
11-04-2008, 01:28 PM
But would you vote for Lando Calrissian or Emperor Palpatine (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/a863be2b6f/vote-for-lando-calrissian-w-billy-dee-williams-from-fod-team)?! :laugh:
A lot of similar issues to the U.S. Election, even the candidates are similar! :18:

Killian
11-04-2008, 01:35 PM
Hmmmm.... Tibanna Gas Mining, free Sabacc lessons and free enterprise, or Clone Conscription, dark Force powers and Universal Domination?

Hard choices there.... though there is an odd similarity, as Roger pointed out :001_tt2:

Elbow
11-04-2008, 06:58 PM
I voted for the best man for the Presidential job.

I wrote in Chuck Norris for President.

Chuck Norris recently visited "The Virgin Islands" and when he left, they had to change the name to "The Islands."

Roger
11-05-2008, 04:06 PM
It seems our polls here predicted the result! :)